“This is the first time I have actually seen this second article. So to Curious, if they paper chooses to run the story and use the pictures taken for the first, so be it!

Also, I find it ironic how people will comment on the residents causing this themselves. The pictures of the bus that was actually stuck was no where near a parked car.

As far as I am aware there has not actually been any deliberate parking to prevent the buses turning. Certainly not on my part and having spoken with neighbours not on theirs either.

Strangely enough, since these articles have been printed the problem hasn't happened again. No change to the route, parked cars or otherwise, just the consideration from the bus drivers. Which is much appreciated.”

“Anon, you need to read all of the posts not just from this article but from the previous as well. You will see then that it is the residents themselves that caused this mess that was formerly a rose garden. They are just conveniently trying to pass the buck to the bus drivers.”

“His well within his rights to moan off, look at the state of the rose garden. You forget, someone has made effort to try and keep the place nice, and only to be trashed by bus drivers. What if that were youths doing that, would you be calling them snooty then.”

“This resident is clearly doing everything in his power to make life hell for the bus drivers. I propose that the council tow his car away or paint double yellow lines. Oh how I would love to see the faces of the snooty residents of Lacey Drive if this happened.

And yes Simon, I live very close by so I will say whatever I want.

You may think yourself as some kind of freedom fighter, to the rest of us you are a petty little man.”

“Oh dear Simon, an objective point of view not to the liking of the residents of Lacey Drive. Well tough because so long as I am a commuter and so long as it is my money that pays for repairs yours included. I WILL have my say.”

“Simon - how dare you tell us not to comment. You cannot silence the public. We have every right to comment on your malice attitude.

I hope that they tarmac over the triangle.”

“Oh Dear, Alex Mills. You must get a life. This is not a new news story. Evidently the picture shown in the first article wasn't good enough and Dear Alex wanted to have them publish a new improved version.

In the earlier article on which a long thread of comments was attached, the bus company had already been quoted as saying that they'd pay for the damage.

As for 'admitting guilt' Dear Simon from Old Coulsdon, it's called PR dear. They'll pay up to stop you complaining every darn day.

And as to whether the nimby's have legally parked a taxed and insured car is not the point. It's in the way. And readers will know that nimbys in Lacey Drive admit to purposefully park in the way of the bus.

Tarmac over the triangle to take the obstruction out of the equation. Wait til 2011 when the school and its entrance is revamped. Then dig the triangle up again and plant a bush. Simples.”

“Two buses a day? What on earth are the residents complaining for???

If the buses can't go down Lacey Avenue, they will have to be replaced by minibuses, or cars. One bus = six minibuses or forty + cars. So what do you want, two buses, twelve minibuses or eighty cars?”

“Let their tyres down then they wont go in lacey.”

“Just concrete over the rose garden - make it look like the rest of Kroydon then.”