Jimmy Carr is stopping Tramlink extension to Sutton, says MP

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Friday, June 29, 2012
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TAX dodgers are denying Sutton residents access to key services, including a possible tram extension, according one of the borough's MPs.

Tom Brake has declared war on comedian Jimmy Carr and others who fail to pay their share of tax.

  1. LOSING OUT:  Mr Brake says people like Jimmy Carr, who dodge paying their share of tax, are hitting services

    Mr Brake says people like Jimmy Carr, who dodge paying their share of tax, are hitting services

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    Tom Brake

  3. Jimmy Carr

    Jimmy Carr

And the Carshalton and Wallington MP believes dodgers such as the TV funnyman - though not breaking the law - are responsible for taxpayers losing out on key services, by failing to make an appropriate contribution to the public coffers.

He is now backing Labour MP Michael Meacher's Private Member's Bill that would outlaw any financial transaction where the primary purpose is tax avoidance.

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Some estimates put the loss of revenue due to tax evasion at £42 billion, with Mr Brake keen to see a slice of this cash benefit Sutton. He said: "There are any number of good causes the money could be spent on in Sutton.

"There is a proposal to build a tram extension to Sutton – the money could be used for that for instance.

"Extending the Overground from West Croydon to Sutton so people have easy access to Canary Wharf. We could also make Carshalton Station fully accessible to people with disabilities – same with Carshalton Beeches."

Mr Meacher's bill shifts the burden of proof, so rather than HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) proving a suspected evasion was illegitimate, the new system would place the onus on a suspected tax cheat to prove a transaction was legitimate.

HMRC would have the power to declare a dubious transaction null and void, leaving the company to challenge it in court.

Mr Brake said: "In recent weeks it's become blatantly clear that a number of celebrities, footballers and businesspeople have been using every loophole in the book to avoid paying the rate of tax a nurse or a policeman would expect to pay."

And Mr Brake believes the tables have been turned on Carr, who hit the headlines last week for his involvement in a legal but, according to Prime Minister David Cameron, "morally wrong" tax avoidance scheme.

He said: "As the one who dishes out the jokes he is now the subject of the jokes."

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  • Profile image for anodos

    by anodos

    Saturday, July 07 2012, 4:00PM

    “Bankers,politicians,somali pirates,murdoch,where is green lantern,batman, when you need them ??”

  • Profile image for NHSExec

    by NHSExec

    Saturday, June 30 2012, 11:24AM

    “Have to agree with many posters here, everyone avoids tax where they can.

    That manifests itself in ISAs, pension payments, payments by cash to builders/plumers/gardeners etc.

    Self employed manage their income over periods to reduce tax and make use of every expense offset they can.

    And so on, tax is this country is too high for what we get. Either reduce it or increase the value for every £1 taken. The NHs in places is crying out for resource, yet it goes on ever increasing staff pay escalators and pointless red tape.”

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    by tbabygib

    Friday, June 29 2012, 9:20PM

    “Let He who throws the First Stone...!!!!
    My Ex Husband was In the High Tax band, and I worked in a Supermarket and paid 48% tax for him. (No choice in the matter). You can Imagion My out come each week, And Holidays/Bonus. I ended up almost owing them money.!
    If you can do it within the law . then do it.
    They are screwing you everyother which way.”

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    by DianaFrance

    Friday, June 29 2012, 7:25PM

    “Some virtuous people on this thread. Sadly I'm not one of them: when my plumber fits out my fourth bathroom I will have to pay him in cash, so I'm as guilty as he is of avoiding paying tax albeit indirectly. Which of you will insist on paying by cheque on receipt of an official invoice? Who will refuse to take advantage of a promotion offering a day trip for a fiver to meet Ivor in the wine aisle? (Who, indeed could resist meeting Ivor in any aisle?) None of us say to HMRC "oh, that's OK, take an extra £200 this month because I don't really need it".

    Vodaphone on the other hand said "yes, we owe it but no, you can't have it" and HMRC rolled over with its legs in the air. Wish that worked for me.”

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    by Ivor_Shed

    Friday, June 29 2012, 5:41PM

    “As the British economy continues on its downwards spiral to oblivion you will see less people working and more on benefits.

    I would like to point out that on the 2 occasions I was thrown out of my PAYE safe job (major supermarket chain and major UK insurer), when my department was outsourced to India, on neither occasion did I receive any benefit and on neither occasion was I included in the statistics. I saw the same thing happen to a friend - so the unemployed statistics are lies.

    How many of us NEVER 'avoid' paying taxes? Remember HMRC tax receipts suffer every time you buy duty free goods, every time you take out an ISA, donate money to charity (and allow the charity to reclaim tax). So we are all guilty of tax avoidance - as often as we can.
    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, pot calling kettle black etc.

    Me - I'm just popping down to Lidl to pick up a nice bottle of Cotes du Rhone for 1.79 a bottle - Euros that is or less than £1.50 in France. - it would be nearer £4.50 in Addo Lidl, but that's another £3 tax I'll avoid paying.”

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    by anotherbear

    Friday, June 29 2012, 3:32PM

    “I would like to point Mr Tom Brake in the direction of this delightful info-graphic:

    http://tinyurl.com/cssprnf

    Perhaps Mr Brake would like to explain why HMRC have again turned a blind eye to Vodafone's large-scale corporate tax theft, and concentrated their visible efforts on carefully crafted media distraction bombs, such as in the case of Jimmy Carr?”

  • Profile image for DianaFrance

    by DianaFrance

    Friday, June 29 2012, 12:04PM

    “The term "fair share" interests me. When I first married, my husband enjoyed a married man's tax allowance, but this was changed, allegedly for my sake, giving each of us a single person's tax allowance. This could have enabled me to earn a high salary and pay my income tax without telling him how much I earned, but in fact I didn't earn anything so the overall result was that he paid tax at the highest rate and my tax-free allowance was unused, so we were worse off. In France our income and allowances would be pooled so my allowance would not be wasted.

    There probably aren't many young women now who can choose to stay at home while bringing up the children, but the current system penalises such families. Now, which is more unfair, the taxes paid by these families or the tax unpaid by Jimmy Carr? I know which annoys me more!”

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    by NHSExec

    Friday, June 29 2012, 10:45AM

    “Tax rates at the top end are too high. The top few percent pay the majority of income tax as well.

    It seems there are endless streams of neer-do-wells in society who firmly believe they are owed an ever bigger share of higher earners income simply because they draw breath.

    I don't know about anyone else, but when I go to work it is primarily to pay for my family to live as we do, not out of some grandiose holier than thou "for the greater good" notion.

    By all means tax to provide basic state services and a very basic safety net, but other than that, taxation for redistribution to keep some not very productive working age people in with tvs, mobiles and the like is not my idea of why I go to work.”

  • Profile image for nickthompson

    by nickthompson

    Friday, June 29 2012, 10:14AM

    “"TAX dodgers are denying Sutton residents access to key services, including a possible tram extension, according one of the borough's MPs"--------------------And so are MPs who deliberately claim more than they are entitled to by way of expences, in both cases it is OUR hard earned cash.”

  • Profile image for Dxhawk

    by Dxhawk

    Friday, June 29 2012, 9:46AM

    “Whilst I do not support what Jimmy Carr has done tax wise, I am getting a bit fed up with him being the target of every MPs distaste.Come on look into the corruption in the banks and the tax dodging of big companies, this is literally billions of pounds being swandered, this money would help shore up the NHS carry out all the other things Tom mentions plus many more worthy things.

    Think outside the box Tom hit every company as well as people not paying tax and make the tax system fair for everybody close these loop holes. Create more jobs so the taxes can go back into the system, help people back to work for a fair wage so they can pay tax too. Encourage rich people and companies to invest in building companies that will get people into work and out of benefits and poverty. Stop wasting money on things we do not need and spend taxes on what we do.
    It maybe a nice box to be in Tom but the world is falling apart around it and a remedy is needed fast.”

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