Reversing buses are too dangerous, claims driver
by Lucy Buckland
A bus operator has been branded dangerous and stupid by one of its own drivers after ordering staff to reverse in a residential street.
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DIFFICULT?: Bus drivers have been told to use "any skills they have" to stop driving over the rose garden in Lacey Drive
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RUINED ROSES: Resident Alex Mills is upset about buses on his road ruining the rose garden outside his house. Photos show Alex next to damage caused by buses turning in the road Photo No: CCRPM020210D03
Arriva drivers have been told they must back up to avoid driving over a patch of land known as the rose garden in Lacey Drive, Old Coulsdon.
It follows scores of complaints from residents who say "lazy" drivers were using the green patch as a short cut.
After the Advertiser published pictures of a bus on the rose garden, at the junction of Lacey Drive and Forge Avenue, all staff were told to use "any skills they had" including reversing, not to drive over it.
But a senior member of Arriva staff contacted the Advertiser after warning bosses that reversing in a residential street could cause a serious accident.
The bus driver, who wanted to remain anonymous, said Arriva previously told staff they needed another worker nearby when reversing to make sure it was safe – a claim Arriva denies.
The bus driver said: "We were told not to trample this rose garden and younger inexperienced drivers will reverse to avoid it. Reversing is extremely dangerous and stupid especially in a residential area.
"All you need is a granny to come out of her door and not to look where she is going or a young driver to not check his mirror and smack, there is an accident. We were always told don't reverse unless there is an official watching for safety."
People living along Lacey Drive petitioned for the bus stop to be moved and the bus driver said that some were taking matters into their own hands by deliberately parking cars in the way of the bus – making it more difficult for drivers to get along the road.
Arriva stressed reversing was allowed – despite the bus company scrapping routes in Shropshire which were deemed too dangerous for drivers to negotiate as they would need to reverse.
Arthur Davy, who lives along Lacey Drive, said the damage the bus drivers had done to the rose garden was unacceptable and agreed with Arriva that reversing was a sensible option.
He said: "They [the bus drivers] cover the road with mud and churn up the roses. It is completely unacceptable.
"A small amount of common sense would mean the drivers could negotiate the rose garden but if they need to reverse then they should be careful. It is just not right for them to be driving over this rose garden."
The buses using the road cater for students from the nearby Oasis Academy. A spokesman for Transport for London, which contracts the route out to Arriva, reiterated the bus operator had agreed to pay for the damage, as reported in last week's Advertiser.
He said: "We share residents' concerns about the damage caused to the green space. The bus operating company concerned, Arriva, has agreed to pay for the costs of repairing the damage.
"Arriva has also instructed drivers to take care when negotiating this part of the route."











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by Peter, Wallington
Thursday, March 04 2010, 10:04PM
“I wasn't going to comment any further on this, but after looking at the junction, I felt that I just had to add to this debate.
All the cars parked at the junction that would interfere with buses turning round are ILLEGALLY parked. You are not permitted, under the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984 to park within 10 metres (32 feet) of any junction. This would cover the whole of the junction and would mean that no one could park there and stop the buses from turning. This includes any cars with Blue Badges.
The Police and/or Local Authority would be perfectly entitled to remove any vehicles parked at the junction.
ANON and Alex this is FACT. A FACT that means those that object to just TWO buses a day and choose to be 'difficult' could have their cars towed and have to pay a recovery fee of in excess of £100. If a car is towed twice then the owner could have their car confiscated, FACT.”
by Me, Here
Wednesday, March 03 2010, 7:08PM
“I agree Jackie - the residents each have their own garden so if seeing their beloved roses means that much to them they should utilise their own space and not this area. It's pathetic if you ask me. They really need to get out more if they think that this is actually newsworthy!!”
by jackie, old coulsdon
Wednesday, March 03 2010, 4:26PM
“Now a little bit of fencing has appeared on it with a few bamboo sticks....it's not provately owned is it...surely the council should be making alterations to it not residents?”
by Me, Here
Monday, March 01 2010, 6:33PM
“Well ANON and Alex, my child attends Oasis Academy and if, god forbid, he was to get injured due to your irresponsible parking over such a trvial matter then I would be holding you responsible.”
by jackie, old coulsdon
Thursday, February 25 2010, 3:47PM
“Having lived in the area for 17 years I'm sure I have my facts correct in that Lacey Dr is a PUBLIC road and not privately maintained.??
As a motorist I am not allowed to cause an obstruction on a public road so why is this being allowed in Lacey Drive?
There are not signs indicating this is a retirement complex or a gated community, or private road, it's a public highway and thoroughfare. (Unless my A-Z and knowledge of every road in this area is completely wrong).
A lot of other Croydon residents aren't fortunate enough to have a parking space let alone a drive outside their home.
Maybe some have too much time on their hands with nothing better to do than twitch neatly measured pleated net curtains and don't want the world to go on around them.”