“Surely such things could not happen in Downham?
I wonder what the "nit nurse" has to say on the subject!
Are you the Focus foreign affairs correspondent, i.e the Tamil tigers situation in Sri Lanka?
Try not to wear out too much shoe leather on the mean streets of Sarf London.
Regards.”

“Dirty tricks by labour ?
Never !
They would be getting the tory councillers shot if they thought they could get away with it,
they have tried just about everything else!”

“Why Is there so much trouble and potential for misrepresentation over the incinerator?Because the consultation is being made deliberately obscure and very coy.Unfortunately for everyone incinerators have very large plumes (see my google map, Beddington toxic rose plume).I have no idea where any incinerator may be built,but Beddington does seem a very likely centre because of its other links. The map shows the potential air pollution spread (particulates etc.).An industry preferred size of unit creates about two miles worth of four-lane motorway pollution 24/7.I have a very horrible feeling,party squabbling aside,that this question will come back to haunt all of us soon.”

“The project clearly exists - you can google south london waste partnership and find the papers for yourself. Or you can download them from the Croydon Labour web site.

What I do not understand is why the Tories have denied it so strongly when it is an actual project.

I understand why the Tories are upset at the Labour tactics, but it is Croydon Council who has helped put together this PFI bid. The last time I looked, Croydon Council was run by the er Conservatives?”

“waddon couldn't smell much worse but still dirty tricks are what labour are all about”

“The minutes of the 23 October 2008 meeting of the South London Waste Partnership Committee refers to "electricty sales" in the context of the new facility. Perhaps those Tories claiming that lies have been told will explain how this will be done, if not by incineration.”

“Tony Newman loves dirty campaigning and is addicted to telling lies and should apologise for the hurt he¿s caused, but he doesn¿t care.”

“While we retain the discredited party political system (as opposed to requiring all candidates to be independent), this sort of negative campaigning is inevitable. I dare say that the Tories would have done exactly the same had the positions been reversed. The Lib Dems, too, engage in sniping at government and Opposition alike, rather than promoting positive initiatives.

Party politics and the accompanying whip system are an affront to democracy, as narrow party lines are peddled by all members. Those who refuse (Skinner, Pelling) are derided as maverick. The Commons, for example, should spend less time examining the mote in the eye of the Lords and attend to the beam in its own eye. As for local councillors, they really are too insignificant and unimportant to bother about.

Politics is no longer driven by a desire to serve but a desire by individuals to see how much they can get out of it, be it financial or in terms of self-aggrandisement and kudos. The arrant conceit of national politicians and the unsupportable self-importance of local councillors (all too often documented on this site) put people off voting, as tomorrow's feeble turnout will attest. I once stood for election at county council level and even I sometimes find myself asking "What's the point?".”

“This is all Tony Newman's doing. He does it all the time. All that comes out of his mouth is lie after lie after lie. You only need to read what he says in the local papers. Take that recent row over the Tory leaflet in Woodside that was in the advertiser. Getting a Labour party member to complain and lie to the local press. Just the sort of crap you expect from Tony Newman.”

“tbf all politicains are corrupt and croydon has a history of corruption anyway in town hall. someone should clean up this filthy town.”