It's green for go at Tramlink

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Thursday, October 09, 2008
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This is Croydon

by Maheesha Kottegoda

Croydon Tramlink is no more.

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    ALL CHANGE: It's green for go at Tramlink by Desmond FitzGerald.

Instead, any reference to Croydon has been dropped in favour of the name London Tramlink.

And at the same time the traditionally red carriages are being painted green.

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The re-branding has met with sadness as the town's unique tram system, long hailed as a part of Croydon's identity, becomes lost in Transport for London (TfL).

The £2m makeover comes seven months after TfL's £100m buyout from Tramtrack Croydon, in March.

While the much-needed investment is being welcomed, tram lovers and officials are overwhelmingly against renaming the network.

Croydon Council leader, Councillor Mike Fisher, said: "It is a great shame.

"One of the things that is unique to Croydon is the tram system.

"We were the first London borough to adopt it and Croydon is synonymous with having red trams."

Croydon Business chief executive, Brian Stapleton, agreed.

He said: "I am pleased they are investing money in refurbishing the trams but I would have preferred the name to remain because the tram is something iconic for Croydon.

"In terms of the colour, I'm colour blind so someone will have to tell me when a green tram goes by."

Former Croydon engineer and tram enthusiast, Andy Barber, was one of the few in favour of both changes and couldn't understand why tram lovers were against them.

He said a poll on social networking site, Yahoo Groups, revealed enthusiasts were 11-4 against the move.

"The London Borough of Croydon is part of London so London Tramlink is fine.

"As for the colour, it is not a bus it is a tram and the nice bright green looks better but the interior doesn't look right," Mr Barber added.

London Tramlink showcased the first of its newly refurbished fleet in a VIP trip to East Croydon and back on Monday (Oct 6) following a private reception at its Coomber Way Depot in Beddington.

The fleet of 24 trams are to be deep-cleaned and refurbished at the rate of one each week until spring 2009.

A TfL spokesman explained the refurbishments were urgently required since the trams had not been touched since 1999 while re-branding brought the network into the "TfL family".

A spokesman said: "It has a high visibility in an urban environment, is accessible (for visually impaired people) and easier to maintain.

"Green also distinguishes the Tram from other TfL buses operating in the area.

"The green is being designed in a pattern that is similar to both Tubes and London Overground trains."

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    by lloyd, addo

    Wednesday, October 29 2008, 6:16PM

    “It will always be known as the croydon tram. because its in croydon more times then anywhere else ,but the new colours much better . I always thought the red tram Looked more like a bendi bus ??”

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    by ..., ..

    Saturday, October 11 2008, 8:52PM

    “Black then it wouldnt show the dirt”

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    by Poppy, south croydon

    Saturday, October 11 2008, 7:55PM

    “noooooooooooo. i want red croydon trams!!!”

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    by Richard III, Croydon

    Friday, October 10 2008, 11:25AM

    “Excelsior, would you please stop "cyber-stalking" me. I've already apologised on the other thread for my "emabarrassing" behaviour and I intend to leave it at that.”

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    by anon, addo

    Thursday, October 09 2008, 10:37PM

    “caught my eye...lol in addo..is this the new colour now. id prefer pink and purple myself lol”

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    by Excelsior, Croydon

    Thursday, October 09 2008, 8:17PM

    “Richard the T*urd, surely you're not on ANOTHER crusade??!! Time to take your pills.”

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    by Rich, Croydon, SURREY

    Thursday, October 09 2008, 1:20PM

    “That's not green! That's Yuk colour.”

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    by Richard III, Croydon

    Thursday, October 09 2008, 11:12AM

    “Anyone who is against the name change is pretty sad with no life and is clinging onto the hope that Croydon is in Surrey and not London. It's about time people recognised Croydon being firmly part of London. Croydon is NOT in Surrey and has not been since the 1960s. Just because you put Surrey on your address doesnt mean it's right. Look it up if you don't believe me.”

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    by D112, Croydon

    Thursday, October 09 2008, 11:10AM

    “Amen Jackie, its not the trams that are the problem, its the hideous people that go on them. I cant believe it when you see people spitting etc on the train, wtf is wrong with these twunts??”

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    by D112, Croydon

    Thursday, October 09 2008, 11:09AM

    “Amen Jackie, its not the trams thats the problem, its the hideous people that go on them. I cant believe it when u see people spitting on trams etc wtf is wrong with these twunts??”

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